MSN2: Career Trigger & Ending Stats

17 03 2012

First, please apply patch for Prince Maker 2 if you haven’t!!

For Mikan & those who play the Chinese version and need help with the stats

*Note 1:For other things please read 阳多’s guide(Chinese):
http://www.alfagame.net/newbbs/viewthread.php?tid=184
*Note 2:The endings priority is according to descending(the first one would trigger over the below)
*Note 3:Some names may be wrong. I just translate them on the fly for understanding.

Edited: 3 June 2012, some of the precedence are wrong and follow the old non-patched Chinese version so I had them rearranged to reflect the recent patch.

Edited: 30 May 2012 to match with the English translation of the game. And the Dexterity Stat is now translated as Agility and the Fitness Stat is now taken over by the Dexterity name.

Legend:
>=:more than or equal  <:less than
主线剧情:Main Storyline Flag(if the number is 15 means you need to flag all 15 events)
家族名声:Family Reputation
战斗等级: Combat Level
体能: Dexterity
仪态: Etiquette
性感: Charisma
尊严: Dignity
毅力: Endurance
良知: Morals
创造: Wisdom
艺术: Arts
温柔: Gentleness
武术: Attack
魔力:  Magic
敏捷: Agility
亲情: Kinship
善名: Virtue/Good Fame(I sometimes used Fame in the game)
声望: Reputation
罪孽: Sin
金钱: Money/Gil
爱玩家: Love towards Player
外出: Go out Times
心情: Mood 变态: Abnormal
职业触发条件: Career Trigger Condition
结局数据: Ending Stats

1 三界之王 (King of Three Realms)
主线剧情=15
家族名声>=200
战斗等级>=3
体能>=800
仪态>=800
性感>=800
尊严>=800
毅力>=800
良知>=800
创造>=600
艺术>=600
温柔>=600
武术>=600
魔力>=600
敏捷>=600
亲情>=70
善名>=200
声望>=1000
GOOD END 家族名声 >=300 金钱 >=2000
BAD END 家族名声 <300 金钱 <2000

*王结局* 2-4 (不知道有没有触发条件因为我没有找到)*King Endings* (Not sure if there is any trigger requirements because I cannot find them)

4 黑道之王 (Mafia King)
家族名声>=200
战斗等级>=4
体能>=700
仪态>=500
性感>=700
尊严>=700
毅力>=800
良知>=500
创造>=500
艺术>=500
温柔>=500
武术>=800
魔力>=800
敏捷>=500
善名>=200
声望>=1000
GOOD END 家族名声 >=400 金钱 >=3000
OK END 家族名声 >=300<400 金钱 >=2000<3000
BAD END 家族名声 <300 金钱 <2000

3 魔族之王 (Demon King)
家族名声>=200
战斗等级>=3
体能>=700
仪态>=700
性感>=700
尊严>=700
毅力>=500
良知>=300
创造>=500
艺术>=500
温柔>=500
武术>=500
魔力>=70
敏捷>=500
善名>=100
声望>=1000
GOOD END 家族名声 >=400 金钱 >=3000
OK END 家族名声 >=300<400 金钱 >=2000<3000
BAD END 家族名声 <300 金钱 <2000

2 人族之王 (Human King)
家族名声>=200
战斗等级>=3
体能>=500
仪态>=700
性感>=500
尊严>=700
毅力>=700
良知>=500
创造>=700
艺术>=500
温柔>=500
武术>=700
魔力>=500
敏捷>=500
善名>=200
声望>=1000
GOOD END 家族名声 >=350 金钱 >=3000
OK END 家族名声 >=300<350 金钱 >=2000<3000
BAD END 家族名声 <300 金钱 <2000

*变态结局* 5-11 *Abnormal Ending*(Not really abnormal but there’s a Mood stat with abnormal status and if you end the game with abnormal mood you get this)
5 吟遊詩人 (Traveling Bard)
职业触发条件:
创造>=500
艺术>=300
毅力>=300
性感>=300
外出>=10

结局数据:
良知>=500
创造>=900
艺术>=900
心情=变态
善名>=100
金钱<=500
GOOD END 家族名声 >=300
BAD END 家族名声 <300

6 偵探事務所 (Detective Agency)
职业触发条件:
创造>=500
艺术>=300
毅力>=300
武术>=500
外出>=10
结局数据:
体能>=900
创造>=600
毅力>=900
良知>=500
心情=变态
善名>=100
战斗等级>=2
声望>=500
GOOD END 家族名声 >=300
BAD END 家族名声 <300

7 醫生 (Doctor)
职业触发条件:
创造>=300
艺术>=300
毅力>=300
外出>=10
神医事件=1 (Miracle Doctor Event)
结局数据:
尊严>=900
毅力>=900
良知>=700
心情=变态
善名>=100
声望>=500
GOOD END 家族名声 >=300
BAD END 家族名声 <300

8 怪盜 (Kaito/Strange Thief)
职业触发条件:
创造>=300
艺术>=300
毅力>=300
外出>=10
结局数据:
性感>=900
武术>=700
敏捷>=900
心情=变态
善名>=100
战斗等级>=2
声望>=500
GOOD END 家族名声 >=300
BAD END 家族名声 <300

9 死神  (Shinigami/Death God)(我不很清楚那些字母写的是什么!所以就直接抄。自己看看吧)(I’m not sure what some of the value meant)
职业触发条件:
创造>=300
艺术>=300
毅力>=300
盗者事件=3 (Thief event)
声望名声>=150 (I think is Overall Reputation from the 3 reputations)
shenminmingsheng>=150 (I think is Deity reputation because to become a Shinigami is a Deity job)
结局数据:
仪态>=900
温柔>=500
魔力>=300
良知<=200
心情=变态
罪孽>=300
善名>=100
声望>=500
GOOD END 家族名声 >=300
BAD END 家族名声 <300

10 投機商人 (Opportunist Merchant)
职业触发条件:
性感>=500
尊严>=300
家族名声>=200
金钱>=10000
结局数据:
尊严>=900
创造>=500
良知<=500
心情=变态
金钱>=10000
善名>=100
声望>=500
GOOD END 家族名声 >=300
BAD END 家族名声 <300

11 花魁 *没有婚姻结局 (Courtesan *No marriage ending)
职业触发条件:
创造>=300
性感>=600
金钱>=1000
良知<=200
夜店>=10
结局数据:
仪态>=800
性感>=900
温柔>=600
良知<=200
心情=变态
金钱<=400
GOOD END 家族名声 >=300
BAD END 家族名声 <300

*文结局* 12-18 *Literary Endings*
18 人族的建築師 (Human Architect)
职业触发条件:
创造>=500
艺术>=500
文学课次数>=5 (Literature Class Times)
绘画课次数>=5 (Drawing Class Times)
结局数据:
仪态>=500
艺术>=500
创造>=500
GOOD END 家族名声 >=300
BAD END 家族名声 <300

17 人族的政客 (Human Politician)
职业触发条件:
性感>=500
毅力>=500
军事课次数>=5 (Military Class Times)
伦理课次数>=5 (Ethics Class Times)
结局数据:
尊严>=500
毅力>=500
创造>=500
GOOD END 家族名声 >=300
BAD END 家族名声 <300

16 人族的神官 (Human High Priest)
职业触发条件:
创造>=300
艺术>=300
温柔>=300
神殿工作次数>=5 (Work at Temples Times)
结局数据:
尊严>=500
良知>=600
温柔>=300
GOOD END 家族名声 >=300
BAD END 家族名声 <300

15 人族的演員 (Human Actor)
职业触发条件:
创造>=300
艺术>=300
温柔>=300
酒店舞蹈次数>=5 (Dancing at Hotel Times)
结局数据:
体能>=500
毅力>=300
艺术>=500
GOOD END 家族名声 >=300
BAD END 家族名声 <300

12 人族的作者 (Human Author/Writer)
职业触发条件:
创造>=300
艺术>=300
温柔>=300
作者工作次数>=5 (Author work times)
结局数据:
毅力>=500
创造>=500
艺术>=500
GOOD END 家族名声 >=300
BAD END 家族名声 <300

14 人族的歌星 (Human Singer)
职业触发条件:
创造>=300
艺术>=300
温柔>=300
驻唱次数>=5 (Work as singer times)
结局数据:
体能>=500
性感>=500
艺术>=500
GOOD END 家族名声 >=300
BAD END 家族名声 <300

13 人族的畫家 (Human Artist)
职业触发条件:
创造>=300
艺术>=300
温柔>=300
画廊工作次数>=5 (Art Gallery Work times)
结局数据:
毅力>=500
温柔>=500
艺术>=500
GOOD END 家族名声 >=300
BAD END 家族名声 <300

*武结局* 19-25 *Military Type Endings*
20 人族的將軍 (Human General)
职业触发条件:
体能>=500
武术>=500
毅力>=400
军事课次数>=5 (Military Class Times)
结局数据:
体能>=600
毅力>=500
武术>=700
战斗等级>=3
GOOD END 家族名声 >=300
BAD END 家族名声 <300

24 探險者 (Explorer)
职业触发条件:
毅力>=500
体能>=500
武术>=500
结局数据:
体能>=700
毅力>=500
武术>=500
魔力>=500
战斗等级>=2
GOOD END 家族名声 >=300
BAD END 家族名声 <300

25 保鏢 (Bodyguard)
职业触发条件:
性感>=500
武术>=500
魔力>=300
敏捷>=300
保镖工作次数>=5 (Bodyguard work Times)
结局数据:
性感>=500
武术>=500
魔力>=500
敏捷>=700
战斗等级>=3
GOOD END 家族名声 >=300
BAD END 家族名声 <300

23 殺手 (Assassin)
职业触发条件:
体能>=400
武术>=400
魔力>=400
性感>=400
战斗经验>=150 (Battle EXP)
罪孽>=200 (Sin)
结局数据:
体能>=500
性感>=500
武术>=700
魔力>=700
战斗等级>=4
GOOD END 家族名声 >=300
BAD END 家族名声 <300

22 僱傭兵 (Mercenary)
职业触发条件:
体能>=300
武术>=300
魔力>=300
敏捷>=300
雇佣工作次数>=5 (Mercenary Work Times)
结局数据:
体能>=500
武术>=500
魔力>=500
战斗等级>=3
GOOD END 家族名声 >=300
BAD END 家族名声 <300

21 人族的魔法師 (Human Magician)
职业触发条件:
创造>=500
魔力>=700
敏捷>=500
魔法值>=30 (Magic Value)
结局数据:
毅力>=500
创造>=500
魔力>=700
战斗等级>=2
GOOD END 家族名声 >=300
BAD END 家族名声 <300

19 人族的士兵 (Human Soldier)
职业触发条件:
体能>=300
武术>=300
魔力>=300
敏捷>=300
战斗经验>=100 (Battle EXP)
结局数据:
体能>=500
武术>=500
敏捷>=500
战斗等级>=2
GOOD END 家族名声 >=300
BAD END 家族名声 <300

*平民结局* 26-30 (没有职业触发数据,没有婚姻,没有好坏结局) *Civilian Endings*(No Career Trigger, No Marriage, No Good & Bad Endings)
30 貴族的情人 (Lover of  some Noble)
仪态>=400
性感>=400
良知<=300
温柔>=300
夜店工作次数>=7 (Nightclub work times)

28 廚師 (Chef)
毅力>=500
温柔>=300
饭店工作次数>=7 (Restaurant work times)

27 市場調查員 (Market Survey)
创造>=500
敏捷>=300
市场工作次数>=7 (Market work times)

29 鐘點工 (Hourly Worker)
创造>=300
温柔>=500
家务工作次数>=7 (Housework work times)

26 農場主 (Farmer)
体能>=500
毅力>=300
农场工作次数>=7 (Farmer Work Times)

31 流浪 (Wanderer)
没有配到任何以上的结局 (If did not get any of the ending above)

*婚姻结局* 32-41 *Marriage Ending*
*For all endings that have marriage endings, your son at the end will add on a line that bless you and Dean to have happiness, this is the requirement to get that particular line:
主线剧情=15 爱玩家<=40 得到艾瑞斯结局
(you need to get Kid/Son/Prince/Lyle x Ares ending to activate Dean x Player this ending, it is probably the Main Pairing for the story I think as reflected in MSN3 where Dean married Player and Lyle(son) and Ares are not married at all although it doesn’t really say they’re together too, that’s why a lot of fanart is paired with your Lyle and Ares)

32 玩家 (Player)
玩家剧情=6 (Player Event)
爱玩家>=50
亲情>=80

33 倪婕 (NiJie)
人女剧情=5 (Human Girl Event)
爱人女>=50 (Love Human Girl)
金钱>=1000
声望>=1000

34 卡特琳娜 (Katrina)
魔女剧情=5 (Demon Girl Event)
爱魔女>=50 (Love Demon Girl)
家族名声>=200

35 伊薇特 (Yvette)
神女剧情=5 (Deity Girl Event)
爱神女>=50 (Love Deity Girl)
声望>=1200

36 狄恩 (Dean)
狄恩剧情=7 (Dean Event)
爱狄恩>=50 (Love Dean)

37 艾瑞斯 (Ares)
艾瑞斯剧情=7 (Ares Event)
爱艾瑞斯>=50 (Love Ares)

38 夕晴 (Twillight)
管家剧情=5 (Housekeeper Event)
爱管家>=50 (Love Housekeeper)
声望>=1000

If you did not get any of the above endings, you may get one of the 3 generic marriage. It is random and you’ll sometimes get it or not by reloading your last save file before going for an ending.
39 大臣的女兒 (Minister’s Daughter)
40 一個魔女 (A Demon Girl)
41 隱居的仙女 (Deity In Seclusion)

*游戏中间Game Over结局* 42-43 *GameOver in the middle of game)
42 破產 – 任何时候金钱为零就破产了 (Bankrupt – Anytime money zero will get you bankrupt)

43 逃獄死亡 – 变态心态可能会入狱 (Dead from Escaping Prison – Abnormal status will get you to jail)


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150 responses

19 03 2012
Mikan

I LOVE YOU!
Thank you so, so much! I can finally play it! <33
Still, the Chinese words are confusing.. Anyway, you're the best! <333

19 03 2012
princemakerproject

You still need to evoke all the events though which is not included here for those who have. But Good Luck 😀

20 03 2012
Mikan

.. I give up. My son suddenly got nuts and and the start at every month he has 20 HP and 80 Stress, no matter how much he rests the month before.. He’s not sick, he’s not overweight, he’s not very short.. (yes, he can get depressed because of this and get a depressed ending, no matter how high are your stats) Well, maybe he is a bit short, but I don’t know how to raise it. He gets the 15G exercise lessons and 10G rest (topostarlight translated it as “exercise” so..) but it doesn’t work! Can you help me, please? Or give me a link to an OFFLINE Chinese translator? I have no Web on my PC, so I can’t Babelfish it.. (I’m writing from a library now)

20 03 2012
princemakerproject

I don’t know any good offline translator. I’m looking for one too. You can raise his height when a travelling merchant comes randomly selling grow higher shoes(He sells random stuff so it’s rather hard to get too). That’s weird. His stress will raise if you do anything other than rest, this include working and attending lessons. To let it go down I would suggest for the 3 part schedule, 1 work/class and 2 rest sometimes if stress get high or completely rest for all 3 parts. Class increase less stress than work. This game is rather hard from my experiences too even though I know how to read unless you’re expert in playing AVG, I know ppl who have no problem at all playing this game without a guide. Prince Maker 3 is easier than MSN2 in my opinion. I think you should wait for the English one. We’re having big progress in these few days, although I didn’t update. It’s because I can’t really gauge how much work is done.

20 03 2012
Mikan

I know how the stress raises and I have experience is playing this kind of games with no problems at all, both in Japanese and English (the Princess Maker series) but this one is much harder.. I tried every kind of schedule and nothing! Ahh, I wish this game was in Japanese, how much easier understanding it would it be… I have NO CLUE about Chinese at all, so I wouldn’t recognize these higher shoes without a picture..
Oh, also, I notices one strange thing. Once I went to the shop, the one that raises stats and there is that something + 20 and +1kg item, so you know, all of the stuff is unchangeable. One time it changed, and I translated it, and it was something like “wax candle, ropes” and, well… S&M stuff, if I remember correctly. Or maybe was that my translator going nuts. What was that? I still can’t get over it..
Uhhh, sorry about writing so much. I’m gonna shut my trap tight until the translation is done..

20 03 2012
princemakerproject

Hahaha, that is some joke about someone. It has to do with the storyline(not really main storyline but some side storyline about some characters).

It’s ok. 😀 I like to reply too.

23 03 2012
Mikan

That’s good you like to reply, because I like to write ;_; Thank you for all of your replies and all of your hard work with the project~
Ah, really? Yay! I’m so looking forward to it! <33
.. Still no progress.. I already gave up on my lovely Deity-babe and just try to get any normal, non-depressed ending, but.. *sob* Suddenly, the phrase "like father, like son" came to my mind..

5 06 2012
Emma Matthijssen

Helloo, first off thank u for your hard work on this 🙂 !!
But uhm, I have a pretty stupid question xD.
I read in that guide that to meet Dean u need to go to Elia … but how do u get there ?!
I tried lots of things but I can’t find it, and I searched the whole internet but couldn’t find an answer, I hope u can help me :).

5 06 2012
princemakerproject

Elia is Lia, the Human City. The translation there is different. You need to take a stroll there. If you don’t meet him, the required stats are not enough.

EDIT: eh, I was confused which race’s city is Lia already.

5 06 2012
Emma Matthijssen

Thank you for your quick response :)! The Demon City okay… but uhm how do I get there ? (Yes, I’m pretty slow atm with understanding things, sorry)

5 06 2012
Emma Matthijssen

*Facepalm* Just realized Lia is the city when you click on “outing”. Sorry for the trouble I caused you!

5 06 2012
princemakerproject

But I think you can’t meet him when you go outing though. You need to take a stroll there.

5 06 2012
Emma Matthijssen

Yeah, I took a stroll and finally met him 🙂 ! (Man, I’m so hopeless with raising/dating sims xD)

6 06 2012
Yuri

Hello. Did anyone know how to increase virtue? My fourth time playing and I still don’t know how to.

6 06 2012
princemakerproject

You have to donate to the temple.

6 06 2012
Yuri

Ah. So, that’s how. Also, I have a question about the last even for the last event for the player ending. It’s the event about him asking the player if s/he know Dean and if s/he going back to demon realm right? Since I finished that event and have result of love to player 128 and kinship rating 100 but the kid/son/prince marry the minister’s daughter in the end. Thank you for the help 🙂

6 06 2012
princemakerproject

That one is not the last event. There are 6 events.

10 06 2012
Yuri

Are there way to decrease the kinship? I need to get I under 90 but I tend to increase it without realizing it.

10 06 2012
princemakerproject

None really directly. You can take a risk at talking the right way with him.
But it should be hard to increase if you don’t talk to him at all since you start the game.
Give nothing on birthday. Don’t win any competitions. Don’t change clothes when Twilight ask you so.

Why do you need to decrease kinship?

10 06 2012
Yuri

According to the other guide it need less than 100 kinship to earn Ares or Dean. But it seems to be a mistake for I manage to get that ending with 100 kinship. I guess I was lucky I didn’t replay it.

10 06 2012
princemakerproject

Yeah, there is no kinship requirement to get a relationship other than Sister/Brother.

12 06 2012
rosequeen

Huh!? can the player really het married to Dean??? are there any specific insturctions to get it?

13 06 2012
princemakerproject

Eh sorry. I read it wrong. No instructions. You just have to get the 3 requirements I listed above. There is no CG or anything, just one line of text.

13 06 2012
rosequeen

oh, ok still good enough to me,I loved Dean.

16 06 2012
Yuri

Are there requirement to met Ares at the Lia beside it required 500 dignity? When I wasn’t following the main story event I have no problem getting them but now that I’m following it, it seems to never appear.

16 06 2012
princemakerproject

Yes, you need Etiquette.

23 06 2012
bothersomeme

I really wish you could get rid of those Chinese characters and give us just English ones. Even my google Chrome Translator cant pick up on em and fix it so it becomes a rather large chore to look up every single one. You had already translated the whole game so why do we need the Chinese Symbols displayed?

Anyway, I look forward to using this guide to help me through the endings. I managed to see the diety canidate twice but no one else. Its becoming rather a problematic hunt for them all

24 06 2012
princemakerproject

I made this long ago for the Chinese forum and put in the English translation because someone wanted it. It was supposed to be used to play the Chinese game. I’m kind of lazy to fix it. Just open two window and put one at the top with the translation and another one the ending you want and it shouldn’t be a problem looking at the stats.

24 06 2012
Youko

Really? The player marries Dean? I’m not quiet sure I enjoy that since I find Dean rather … melodramatic sometimes. And the game pretty much smacked me while yelling incest for marrying Lyle … At least I’m just Lyle’s guardian rather than stepmother… D:

Silly awesome game…. >:l

24 06 2012
princemakerproject

Well, in MSN3 he his character pretty much changed a lot I think(maybe because he’s 50 years older). He’s not snobbish anymore.

He is just jealous. You were originally Dean’s caretaker which is why Dean calls you Sister/Brother also in the game. If you play Origin you would know why. You were raising Dean in that game. That game is not a Sim raising game, more like an RPG but not really like an RPG but it is a very fun game.

24 06 2012
Youko

I would love to play the other two games, but despite being Chinese and being able to speak Mandarin, I can’t read a lick of it and my pride doesn’t want to admit knowing how to read Chinese will be useful for something…

It’s good to hear he’s changed since his snobbish attitude irked me. Thanks for translating the game by the way, I really enjoyed it. 😀

24 06 2012
Sanae

Haha, I know, I prefer Ares or even some of the girls myself, but Dean does have more relation with you. As for you (the caretaker), wowwww the amount of ship tease in his comments. You get it more than any other pairing!

24 06 2012
Sanae

Do endings have some priority? I’m trying to get the Emperor ending, but I accidentally triggered the job for the artist, and now I’m afraid that I’ll work hard for nothing in the end. I know that the best solution is to avoid certain jobs but when I don’t have a lot of money often, need to unlock jobs, and need certain stats up, I feel that I have no choice. Is there a way to reverse it or override it?

24 06 2012
Youko

If you look at the game guide for the game under the game guide section, it tells you what you need to be king of the realms. Though, I’m pretty sure you need:

To complete the Main quest
Know both Dean and Ares (though that has to happen to complete the main quest)
+800 in most stats and +600 in some others
70+ Kinship with your child
and around 350 rep with all the realms.
2k+ gold
Child not abnormal.

The stats are at the top ^^

24 06 2012
Youko

Also, as far as I know, the part time jobs you can unlock have literally no effect on your ending except for the King of Realms since you need to unlock Military Training class and that’s through doing the bodyguard job a few times.

24 06 2012
Sanae

The problem is, these stat requirements overlaps with the requirements for the artist as well. e.g. (random, not accurate) The game reads that anything above 300 Dignity is needed, so 800 Dignity would suffice as well.

I’m just concerned because this also happened in Princess Maker 2 (which I played as well), so I was wondering if it were the same case, even if the developers aren’t the same.

24 06 2012
princemakerproject

You can’t avoid trigger because some jobs have lower stats than others. Like if you want to get the Emperor ending, the stats are higher than the artist trigger stats so you’ll get the want to be artist trigger sometime halfway.
Yeah, the priority is according to descending. You’ll get the first one compare to the below.

24 06 2012
Sanae

But when I tried to become the Human King (having all the requirements), I still ended up being an artist for some reason.

25 06 2012
Youko

What was your mental state? The one time I got human king end was when I had really low sin, but good enough stats for King of Realms (but didn’t finish the mains story)

24 06 2012
Sanae

^ I meant to say Demon King, not Human King, sorry about that!

25 06 2012
Youko

Well, I would suggest heading to the church and asking for a 300 gold prediction from the priest in your last year or so. I would think you’d also need high reputation in the Demon Realm if you didn’t have it already. You can also find out your rep from the church for the 100 gold divination.

25 06 2012
princemakerproject

You probably did not get all the requirements. You must have total 1000 reputation(add up from each race) by visiting civilians and at least 200 family reputation, 400 to get a good ending.

25 06 2012
Sanae

I maxed out all the official reputations, and I did pretty far for civilians though. I *did* get the Human King ending with a similar method, so I don’t know what went wrong.

Well anyway, I’ll give it a shot anyway. Thanks!

25 06 2012
princemakerproject

If I’m not wrong, visiting the officials does not increase family reputation I think. Only visiting civilians increase family reputation. You may want to take note. If you are a fan of the Prime Minister & Head Priest(or have gotten their side story and want more), I would suggest getting the bad Human King ending. There is a bit about them.

25 06 2012
Youko

Also, the cap for reputation in each realm is 350 points. You can raise it through the visit option under the “Life” button in the end of month planing screen. Talk to the demons to raise your rep. However, you need certain stats to make it a successful chat (or else they won’t talk to you)

Here are the stats from the game guide:

Demon Race:
Citizens – Agility 200+
Queen – Charisma 200+
King – Magic 200+
Lilis – Dignity 500+

On the very side note, I think I might rewrite the guide and completely sum up the notes from all the various guides and my own if I have time and people want it (since the guides can be kind of confusing and hard to follow). Anyone interested?

25 06 2012
princemakerproject

A rewrite would be really great. Just tell me when you finish it.

25 06 2012
Youko

First I need to get through a physics exam tomorrow! I’ll probably whip up a text file when I get the chance.

25 06 2012
Sanae

@Youko’s question about mental state: Normal. I always made sure to pour in some Virtue to nullify my Sin.

I wonder… In that playthrough, I tried to marry Dean as well. Does that affect the ending in anyway? I heard that you can’t marry the other Candidates for the True Ending, so maybe it’s the same for the other King endings as well.

25 06 2012
princemakerproject

Nope, you can marry anyone in any ending other than those I said can’t have marriage ending(the courtesan, the wanderer and the civilians ending).

23 07 2012
Kaorin

You know, I’m now trying to get human king ending (If you still didn’t get it, read it all xD) But in church when I asked it was my son will be demon king. Then I’ve looked at the stats and for demon king dexterity and charisma has to be 700 and with human king it’s only 500. So you have to lower charisma or dexterity if you have both 700 or higher. Hope that helped >.<"~

25 06 2012
Mikan

I can’t get the Twilight ending. My brother was Houseworking all the time, I spend about 10k (just in case) praying for their love (greedy Deities) and NOTHING. He became Hourly Worker. (Yay for the pink dress!)
What the hell did I do wrong? ;_;

25 06 2012
princemakerproject

EDIT: Ok, doing housework only does not get Twilight’s ending. Other than very high Gentleness, you need high Wisdom, high Morals, very high Attack, very high Etiquette. There is also an age requirement where you only start her storyline at age 15. You get all her storyline at home. But you can get her extra storyline during adventuring at Demon realm but it’s not really required.

25 06 2012
Youko

Like the translator said, you need the stats to trigger her events even if you don’t do housework. During my play-throughs, Twilight would always poke me with her romance subplot… (but I’d always reject her D:). I think the first event with her involves Lyle talking to her about her origins and past. Good luck…

25 06 2012
princemakerproject

Yeah, if you go for the King endings it is really easy to get her romance plot because you just need stats to activate it.

25 06 2012
Sanae

Just wanted to say that somehow it turned out alright in the end, and I became the Emperor of Three Realms! Thank you~

25 06 2012
princemakerproject

Congratulations. Like the story? No, Yes?

1 07 2012
norzunico

hi can u help me plss..i can’t seems able to unlock the bar job..i follow the guide and my charisma was 100+ but the job wasn’t visible..tq

1 07 2012
princemakerproject

That one is Hotel Work. You should be able to get it once Charisma is over 100.

1 07 2012
norzunico

thx a lot!!! u reply very fast.. tq

1 07 2012
sarungbantalhitam

first off thx a lot 4 ur hard work!!!
i have a problem. this is my 3rd time playing this game. I can’t seems to find both Dean and Ares.. i’ve already increase all my stats 500+ (except gentleness, moral, attack, agi, endurance) n ive already search for them everywhere
Is there any age or other requirement to met them?

1 07 2012
princemakerproject

For Dean you also need: Agility
For Ares you also need: Gentleness & some reputation
Other than reputation, they should be over 300

2 07 2012
sarungbantalhitam

thx for ur help!

1 07 2012
Ayu

Help please! I followed the blogspot walkthrough but I can’t seem to get Dean to appear somehow … I already got the required stats which are 350 and above for attack,dexterity,agility,magic and demon-world reputation. Then, I took a stroll to Elia but I can’t meet him! D:

Is there something else I should do to meet Dean?

1 07 2012
princemakerproject

Health & Wisdom?

2 07 2012
ayuvanilla

Oh… so I should also increase wisdom to 350… I didn’t know that … Thanks a lot! 😀

4 07 2012
sarungbantalhitam

hi again..where can i meet Lucifer? is it through visit? or i also tried stroll to each places but can’t find him…cos i can’t seems to trigger the event when i need to head to castille to meet dion.

4 07 2012
princemakerproject

Stroll to Lia

20 07 2012
ConfusedGirl

hello !! I know I’m really late here, but I’m having so much trouble activating romantic paths 😦 I I’ve tried romancing the Angel girl and I didn’t get her 3rd event and her love was 154. In the guide I read it says to start the main story line during certain points in order to go through with the romantic plots, but I have no idea how to activate the main story to romance the girl. (or the others)

21 07 2012
princemakerproject

Have you read Flower’s guide? It lists how to get the main storyline. The first two main storyline events will activate on it’s own without you going anywhere but you must have a rather high value in all stats(300 for quite a few required stats and reputation, it is best to raise all of them, then 2nd event 400 for arts and gentleness plus high kinship). So just increase them and you’ll get them automatically. The 3rd event of main storyline is to take military class I think. Then you just follow Flower’s guide from there:
http://roses-to-vials.blogspot.sg/2012/03/adventure-guide-when-you-go-to-certain.html

To get the Deity girl 3rd event, you must reach main storyline 9 which is going to Mildeheim to meet the queen. You need to go there again to get the 3rd event of the Deity girl.

21 07 2012
neurotyc

How do you boost the overall reputation with the three races so quickly. Even the though I fulfilled the stats requirements, it still rises slowly…. To meet Dean and Iris ‘roses-to-vials’ blog stated that you had to raise their race reputation to 350. However, the blog also stated that to get the true ending, you had to meet them before the end of the 2nd year. How is this possible when the ranking goes up about 20 every time I visit them? I fulfilled all the stats requirements too…

21 07 2012
princemakerproject

True ending? What true ending? All the marriage endings have only 1 version per character.

You don’t need to meet them before the end of the 2nd year. You have to meet them and finish their routes up to the last beauty contest which is the 2nd year before the end(1007) because you need to win the beauty contest after you become best friends(plot 5, not before) otherwise you’re locked out.

The only way to raise reputation is to talk with the people or officials. I don’t think reputation is a problem though if you talk with them everytime(of course you have to fulfill their stat requirements otherwise they give very little). You’ll be able to max them out very fast actually.

21 07 2012
neurotyc

Oh…. Thanks! I was really confused! 😀

22 07 2012
neurotyc

Also, how do you calculate affection points? Going to the water dragon just gives me a vague statement rather than an actual amount…

23 07 2012
princemakerproject

I don’t think you can get the value. But it shouldn’t be so hard to understand. Once it said you’re a perfect match then it should be ok already.

23 07 2012
Kaorin

Hello, I wanted today to start emperor of three realms but I had problems at the beginning.Son has to talk with Twilight just after his 12 birthday, and if he didn’t meet dean to that time, it’s all just hopeless?

23 07 2012
princemakerproject

I don’t think you need to talk with Twilight at his 12 birthday?? Where did you get that? There is no time limit to get the main storyline. You can even activate it at the last year. There is only limit on how young you can activate like you can only activate certain events after age 15.

Of course you may get locked out on certain events if you advance too much on either plot. You try read Flower’s guide on that.

23 07 2012
Kaorin

I’ve got that from rose to vials blogspot. It’s: “Your younger brother should talk to the Maidservant about his own past on Year 2, after his birthday, but you must unlock the Military Studies tuition and meet Dion at least once beforehand. Afterwhich, attend Military Studies to see the plot-related events. ” I’ve unlocked military, and met Dean soon after birthday, but event with younger brother talking to twilight didn’t appear, and there wasn’t any plot related events on military tuition.

And where can I meet high priest while going out?

And is there any way to meet deity king?

23 07 2012
princemakerproject

It’s a translation error, it actually means from year 2 onwards Twilight will talk about the past(once you’ve fulfilled the conditions).

You don’t get the event because you didn’t meet the requirements. The guide did not say but the first two events of the main storyline need very high stats and will automatically happen once you reach it. Two of the events are Twilight talking with the kid. Then the 3rd event is to take military lessons.

“Going out” is the diplomacy where you go talk with the officials or civilians to get reputation on the interface screen.

You’ll meet the deity king when the plot needs you to? Or if you mean diplomacy then you need to meet the conditions.

25 07 2012
Kaorin

Okay, thanks about it.
It’s about meeting Dean and Ares, right? then I should unlock military, Twilight should talk to brother and I should go to military lessons, right?

Ah, okay. I thought going out means stroll or somewhere in Lia

I’ve never met him on diplomacy, but not once, not twice I had all stats full.

25 07 2012
Kaorin

One more question x,X
I can’t trigger main event 8 with going to mansion in demon realm. Do I need some age? Because I have all stats at max now.

25 07 2012
princemakerproject

Hmm, I seem to have replied this not long ago. Where is it? There is no stat or age requirements.

Here, I copied from that post:” You must get Dean’s plot up to 2. If you become lovers with him already(plot 5), you’re locked out of the main storyline. Don’t be angry though, I think the guide got warn about it?”

26 07 2012
Kaorin

It means, I have to met Dean for the second time? I met him only once. And I want to have love-ending with Yvette, but I can’t trigger 3rd event. It’s already perfect match

26 07 2012
princemakerproject

Yes

26 07 2012
ConfusedGirl

Thanks it finally worked I was about to go crazy and the guides helped, but there’s one last problem In roses to vial romance path guide I went for Dion’s second event (romance path in dark street) but nothing happened. I looked at the comments in the guide and it said the romance Dion second event will happen when my magic,wisdom and attack quite high right now those stats are at least 880 each and still no second Dion love event. @_@ (I do admit I sort of neglected some other stats trying to open Dion’s path before the beauty pageant.

26 07 2012
ConfusedGirl

Nevermind, I raised my other stats turns out that was the problem…:( thanks anyways

26 07 2012
Anna

I’m sorry if someone’s already asked this question, but what ways(other than the cross you buy from the traveling merchant) can you lower sin? ;-;

27 07 2012
princemakerproject

Nope, you can’t. You balance it out with Virtue by donating ti church.

27 07 2012
Anna

Darn, ;-; Another question, if I may? How do I get the merchant to visit on that month?

27 07 2012
princemakerproject

You can’t. She’ll only visit when you have enough money and it’s still random. You can reload save file until she appears though. There is no problem with Sin being high, just not too high. The God of Sin will give you benefits anyway. Just make sure Virtue is higher.

27 07 2012
Anna

Darn. Welp. I’m a Criminal now. ;-; I totally didn’t notice till too late.
But I’m really enjoying the game, a lot! 😀 Thank you for posting. ^^

17 08 2012
Kaylin

I’m sorry if this has already been answered somewhere, but Twilight keeps telling me my child’s abnormal, and I have no idea what I’m supposed to do to fix it! Q – Q Do you know what determines whether or not he’s abnormal?

17 08 2012
princemakerproject

Sin. Get your Virtue(donate to church) up to more than Sin and it’ll become normal again.

29 08 2012
runeseeker

Do you know how many times must you pray to the love goddess to raise one character’s affection to ‘match-made in heaven’. Whenever I check, the dragon keeps saying that the love can change. Also, do you know hoe else to check the affection stats?
And thank you for the translations!

29 08 2012
princemakerproject

I’m not very sure. Shouldn’t have to pray that much. He’ll always say Love can change. It is his tag line, doesn’t have anything to do with affection. He doesn’t say “match made in heaven”. It is the one he says “You are a perfect match”. I think the church got say if you have what kind of lover too if you check what profession you’ll do endgame. He’ll tell you what profession and lover that you end up with endgame of your current progress.

29 08 2012
runeseeker

Don’t mean to keep bothering you, but…
I never did anything to pin for Twilight, but her events just keep popping up and I can’t seem to get the caretaker to ‘perfect match’…
I’m not really sure what the issue is, but I can never get the full caretaker route…

29 08 2012
princemakerproject

Maybe you can look at Sanae’s guide? Twilight’s events happens at home that’s why you’ll get her much more easily.

1 09 2012
runeseeker

I followed it the first time I played, but it still can’t work….

1 09 2012
princemakerproject

Can you be more specific? Did you finish the caretaker’s route? Or you are stuck in the middle? The last event of the route is the confession and you have to accept/decline. Did you finish the game? If so, what kinship does it display at the ending credits? It has to be above 80.

2 09 2012
runeseeker

My kinship is at 100.
I just can’t seem to get the event where the brother confronts the caretaker a month later after the third event. And that stops the fourth event from happening…

2 09 2012
princemakerproject

Ok, after looking through your replies saying that the Love Goddess doesn’t say anything about perfect match, I remember one possibility that I’ve forgotten. Have you applied the patch? If you didn’t apply the patch, I think praying to the Love Goddess for the player doesn’t work.

2 09 2012
runeseeker

Uhhh….What patch?
Sorry if I asked the most stupid question ever….

2 09 2012
princemakerproject

Please get the patch here(below post):

It is here! Translated Prince Maker Braveness Download

2 09 2012
runeseeker

Thank you so much!
And sorry for all the questions and stuff….

2 09 2012
princemakerproject

It’s ok. I forgot there was this bug originally. You’re lucky you didn’t get the other bugs though which will crash the game.

4 09 2012
runeseeker

Annnd I’m back again!
…..Am I being a bother?
The patch did the trick for the whole unable to raise affection thing….
But,uh….
Now I have troubles with Ares route.
His third meeting won’t happen, even with 800 Wisdom, Etiquette, Sensitivity, Morals and Dignity….
Is there some age limit for his third meeting or something?

4 09 2012
princemakerproject

It’s ok, don’t worry. ^^
I didn’t check the rose guide. Is the 3rd meeting at Lia? Because the guide sometimes list the meeting number differently from mine.
-No age limit.
-Main storyline have to be less than 6
-Etiquette and Dignity more than 400 which you have already
So, I’m not really sure what is the problem if your main storyline is less than 6.

4 09 2012
runeseeker

-dies-
Which means I have to restart the game data… XD
….
Ah, but thank you so much, and sorry to keep coming back here and asking a lot of stuff…. =-=”

5 09 2012
runeseeker

Roses’ guide says there’s six Ares events… And you state seven. Uh, what is Ares’ 7th event?

5 09 2012
princemakerproject

Sometimes the guide doesn’t count automatic events(like the one with the caretaker). The Ares/Dean is because it is not written precisely for each event. Actually in the Chinese version of the guide, it said all events after that is at Legacyland and the confession is also there. The translator did not translate like that, she just said visit Legacyland. So yeah, all last 3 events is at Legacyland even though she only listed two.

7 09 2012
Kiyo

Can I get a tip on how to get Human King ending without triggering the Demon King ending?

7 09 2012
princemakerproject

Just don’t fulfill the requirements for the Demon King ending and you’ll be fine: don’t go over 700 for Dexterity and Charisma

8 09 2012
Kiyo

Never mind I figured it out. :3

8 09 2012
Kiyo

Thanks for the reply though!

12 09 2012
runeseeker

Hey, don’t mean to be random…
But where can you find Fan Art for this game?

12 09 2012
princemakerproject

The Chinese forum has a lot of fanart. Some are really awsome like the wallpaper one I shared some posts before. Yes, those are fanart. She also has a few other fanart posts there. All of them can be read without registering. Other than that, I see a few at Tumblr with the prince maker tag.

14 09 2012
DD

One question – About that one line about Dean x Player, does that line only appear in Brother x Ares ending? I’m wondering if I could still get that line if I paired Brother with a girl.

14 09 2012
princemakerproject

No, only when you get the ending with Ares.

17 02 2013
Mikan

Hi there, me again. I was just wondering – do you have a CG pack or an OST? I tried to rip it, but the *.xp3 is driving me nuts…

22 02 2013
princemakerproject

I had them since I need to extract them to translate but a month back my pc broken and I took out the hard disk. I’m using my dad’s pc and he already has 2 hd and no space for another one so I shelf it first thinking of using it when I bought a new pc(which I haven’t). The stuff is inside there. I don’t remember what the software to rip it now since it has been more than half a year I did it(and still inside that hd). The ending CG has no ending text though. I’ll contact you via email later when I get the stuff out or when I bought a PC.

28 02 2013
Mikan

Ok, I’ve got it. I used ExtractData and I’ve got it – CGs, BGMs, Opening and all. I’ll try to upload it on Saturday.

24 02 2013
Ruby

Um can someone help, I downloaded the patches yet I still can’t seem to get the caretaker ending, the events that are required won’t activate for me no matter how high all my stats are. I’ve followed Sanae’s walkthrough and still can’t get it.

27 02 2013
princemakerproject

Have u applied the patch properly? (Put it in the same folder as the .exe game file and the file extension for the patch is .xp3)

If the patch is applied properly, which event won’t activate?

27 02 2013
Ruby

Yes it was applied.
The event that wouldn’t activate was the 4th event that involves meeting Dean in Lia. I think it was because I was playing on my laptop. When I downloaded the game and patch on my Computer it worked perfectly.

5 03 2013
princemakerproject

That’s weird. There shouldn’t be a difference playing on laptop & pc.

2 03 2013
Mikan

Sorry for spamming but FOR ARES’ SAKE, WHY WON’T MY COMMENTS SHOW.

2 03 2013
Mikan

Ok, so, this is gonna be a long one, lol.
Some of the text is the box. I’ve got screenshots, but when I put them in there I can’t send the post.
There are also two bugs while Adventuring, namely Sword of Mars and God of War battles. I dunno if it’s a game bug or something in the patch got messed up, but I though I’ll tell you.
I’ll upload the opened *.xp3 files later. My Mediafire account got blocked and I’m looking for some other site.
How can I show you the screenshots?

5 03 2013
princemakerproject

You mean screenshots of bugs? You can upload at photobucket or if there is a lot, zip it and link to me is ok also. But it’ll be later if want to fix.

2 03 2013
Mikan

Here’s the link to the extracted *.xp3 files.

5 03 2013
princemakerproject

Sorry, I have to take the link off, the devs sometimes visit here and might see it. I think we need a forum for sharing this kind of thing. But if anyone want the music or CG, I can send to your email.

Btw, I’ll try to have another go(I’ve thought of using a different way) later at getting their permission to translate MSN3. Maybe a few months later when I settled some of my own things.

5 03 2013
Mikan

That’s too bad. Good luck with getting the permission! MSN3 looks awesome, but I won’t be of much help, sorry.
Here’s the link to the screenshots – http://www.speedyshare.com/MAsrK/SCREENSHOT.zip

6 03 2013
princemakerproject

It’s ok. It’s a lot of help to have interest in it. I’ll see what I can do.

19 03 2013
Mikan

How is it going?

25 03 2013
princemakerproject

I haven’t ask.

20 06 2013
Hypnos

That’s a pity. I’ve lost my passion to play since I’ve got all the CG.
– Mikan/Hypnos (ew, my new icon is hideous, but I have a new e-mail)

13 07 2013
princemakerproject

Hahhaha, I know your feeling! I’m also like that.

16 06 2013
curiieebalvenie

hello, i want to ask for caretaker route. First thing is i don’t get the second choice when i encountered with the mysterious man in the human realm. The guide says that i should choose “she’s my sister”, then will be continued with “why do you ask”. But i don’t get the “why do you ask” choice. Second thing is somehow i can’t make Dean said that the caretaker is going back to demon realm.. even though i have met elia, then to the dark street, market, and talk to elia twice. weirdly, dean is getting friendlier to me (even though i definitely choose wrong option for Dean = not raising his affection).
I’ve already downloaded the patch.xp, full stats, high reputation, doing main story till meet lucifer, pray to love goddess numerous times, giving rose to the younger brother, and still failed.
I’ve already played this four times, and am really desperate :’(. please help me. thank you.

17 06 2013
curiieebalvenie

sorry please forget what i said, cause finally somehow i got the ending :’). thanks though 😀

13 07 2013
princemakerproject

Glad you got it. It can be frustrating. You really have patience.

20 02 2014
Petrescu

I can’t get to the second meeting with Katrina. I downloaded
the patch, I payed the love goddess, my stats are high, but
she’s not in Legacy land.

21 02 2014
princemakerproject

If you’re following the guide, there are some parts that the guide is not really correct or you need something else not mentioned there. I’m not sure what now.

26 02 2014
Petrescu

I managed to get the Katrina ending, but I can’t get the Ares special ending. If I meet him for the third time, the plot for the emperor gets stuck. If I advance the plot, I no longer get the third meeting. Is there a way to coordonate this events?

27 02 2014
princemakerproject

Ares special ending? Do you mean Caretaker x Dean special ending?
Requirements: 主线剧情=15 爱玩家<=40 得到艾瑞斯结局
Ehh, it seems I wrote the English part wrong(Why I even wrote that, my mind was totally in the gutter or something). What I see here is that you need to get Son x Ares ending to get Caretaker x Dean special ending. You can not get this extra ending with any other pairing ending. Also, other requirements are finishing the main storyline=15 event flags and son's love points with caretaker.must be less or equal with 40.

27 02 2014
Petrescu

No, this special ending is impossible to obtain. The main storyline can’t be finished before the last beauty contest (which is the fourth Ares meeting). And if I advance the plot, Ares no longer appears in Lia (the third meeting). Besides, if I get to the third meeting, I can no longer find Dean for the eighth flag event.

1 03 2014
princemakerproject

Oh, you mean getting Ares ending with main storyline. From what I remember, should be able to get both together. There must be something that prevent you from triggering the event. Sometimes, the guide didn’t list the other requirements or a bit wrong with the requirements.

31 05 2014
inuyashaissokool

Hey, I am having problems triggering the 4th event on caretaker romance path. My love score is 74 (we are a “perfect match”) but Dean isn’t showing up at Lia…Brother is 18.

16 06 2014
Brittany

Hey for some reason I can’t get the human actor ending. I double checked and did all the requirements. I even got the scene after doing the first half of requirements but whenever I get to the end he just becomes a wanderer.

16 06 2014
princemakerproject

So you have Dexterity>500, Endurance>300, Arts>500 when it ends? If so then either I copied wrong or some other things wrong.

16 06 2014
Brittany

How do I increase the magic value? And how do I fight with magic?

5 09 2014
User

hi there! em i having a trouble while aiming to became the emperor, where do i meet the high priest while going out and how do i meet with Lucifer at Lia?

29 07 2015
Luke

Hi I can`t trigger shinigami job , I complete the deity thief event , and I have 999 in all the stats excepts moral (400) , charisma (500) , and dexterity (200)

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